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Pain in childbirth 'a good thing' ??

According to the good old :zbcnews: there's been a few angry mummies in response to this story ... especially because the commentator was a man. :hyenas:


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The pain of childbirth may have benefits on which women who opt for painkilling epidurals miss out, a senior male midwife has said.

Dr Denis Walsh, associate professor in midwifery at Nottingham University, said pain was a "rite of passage" which often helped regulate childbirth.

He said it helped strengthen a mother's bond with her baby, and prepared her for the responsibility of motherhood.

But an obstetrician said epidurals were an important option for some women.

Dr Walsh, who wrote on the subject in the journal Evidence Based Midwifery, agreed that in some cases epidurals were very useful.

But he said epidural rates had been rising over the last 20 years, despite the fact that alternative, less invasive ways to manage pain in labour were available.

He said pain in labour was known to have positive physiological effects, such as helping to establish a rhythm to childbirth.

It also triggered the release of endorphins which helped women to adjust to pain.

Dr Walsh said epidurals were known to increase the risk that hormone treatment would be needed to boost contractions, and that devices such as forceps would be needed to complete the birth successfully.

He said: "I am concerned that if we increase epidural rates we do not know the long-term impacts of that."

But he warned that a culture had emerged where most hospitals effectively offered women epidurals on demand.

Official figures show the number of mothers receiving an epidural rose from 17% in 1989 to 1990 to 33% in 2007 to 2008.

Dr Walsh said the NHS should encourage alternative ways to deal with pain such as yoga, hypnosis, massage and birthing pools. Article Continues here ...

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I wouldn't know, I didn't find it too much pain with my 1st, which surprised most people, as they thought I'd struggle.

I didn't even realise I was in labour :oops:

This time I'm hoping for just the gas and air again, which is all I had last time.

I think it's an individual decision, but not one that should be made ahead of labour. Go with what seems right at that time. One thing that I find odd, is the pre-booked c-sections for modern women, who don't want to got through child birth.

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I'm glad your first wasn't to bad red, my sis in law had to have a c section. She was having heart problems...nearly killed her.

Surely though it has to be individual choice with pain relief during birth, although I'm bloody glad I'll never have to find out.



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I've never felt pain like it in all my life!!! I was in labour for 14 hours before I had my epidural and I found it very, very distressing, not to mention fucking agonising! After the epidural I was calm and felt very excited knowing that I would soon meet my baby :) I agree that epidurals shouldn't be a first resort, but as the midwife who delivered my son said to me, you don't get any medals for natural childbirth.



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2 births 2 epidurals.

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Happened already in The Hospital (one episode specifically dedicated to ignorant fat bints up the duff)

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I wonder whether the author of that report would have a tooth extracted without anaesthetic?

TR - given the option, I wanted a ceasarian with my first - I hated the idea of splitting & being swollen, my bits get swollen at the slightest excuse. As it turned out Firstborn was tangled up in the umbilical tube and they had to do an emergency section anyway, which suited me. Mini Deb was born naturally, but with an epidural - and numerous doctors looking at my bits in horror, telling me how swollen I was. Cheers guys.

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2 births - no epidurals. First one I got a couple of codeine which I brought up as I can't tolerate them. The nursing sister nearly killed my baby, :mad: as she told me I wasn't even in labour, when I told her I was nearly ready to push. Persian houseman saved my baby's life and mine I reckon, by acting promptly.

Second - again told I wasn't far enuff on in labour to have any pain killers/pethidin. Proved 'em wrong...again, by producing my son 55 minutes later :pp:

Both labours were agonisingly painful, but shorter than many, at only 12 hours apiece.

I think pain is an individual experience, as is labour. Some gals pop 'em out like shelling peas, some go thru' the tortures of hell. :(

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My first one was a forceps delivery with the aid of some very welcom pethidine!!! ( I still flinch when I see a spatula :confused: )
Second one was gas and air and was over before I knew it :)



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I kept the gas an air too. ;)

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like shelling peas for me :oops:

2nd one came out after 6 contractions and a bit of gas and air---luckily the midwife was standing by wearing a catcher's mitten-----wasn't sure if it was for the baby or the husband who had fainted :rofl:

no joke--the lightwieght fainted--and he wasn't even at the "business end". :thumbdown:

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Aww Bless Him :rofl:

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Pain during childbirth is a female fallacy, a story put about my women to garner sympathy from men who actually know what real pain is every time they get a cold.




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Lord Gumble wrote:Aww Bless Him :rofl:


bless him my arse!

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martyn20 wrote:Pain during childbirth is a female fallacy, a story put about my women to garner sympathy from men who actually know what real pain is every time they get a cold.




dicing with death making comments like that martyn :rofl:

in my experience, the only time men feel pain that can be compared to childbirth is when i kick them in the scrotum for 8 hours whilst wearing a pair of doc.martens :rofl:

:chin: :chin: ----oh no, that's just my fantasy! damn!


and on that note it's time for me to go to bed and dream of doc martens :rofl:

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robinnia wrote:
martyn20 wrote:Pain during childbirth is a female fallacy, a story put about my women to garner sympathy from men who actually know what real pain is every time they get a cold.




dicing with death making comments like that martyn :rofl:

in my experience, the only time men feel pain that can be compared to childbirth is when i kick them in the scrotum for 8 hours whilst wearing a pair of doc.martens :rofl:

:chin: :chin: ----oh no, that's just my fantasy! damn!


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martyn20 wrote:
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martyn20 wrote:Pain during childbirth is a female fallacy, a story put about my women to garner sympathy from men who actually know what real pain is every time they get a cold.




dicing with death making comments like that martyn :rofl:

in my experience, the only time men feel pain that can be compared to childbirth is when i kick them in the scrotum for 8 hours whilst wearing a pair of doc.martens :rofl:

:chin: :chin: ----oh no, that's just my fantasy! damn!


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thankyou martyn, very sweet of you to say that but it still doesn't get you out of that kicking! :rofl:

i'll have to do it tomorrow as i'm too tired to give anyone a good thrashing :thumb:

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:howl: It's 1.45 am, I cant sleep and I've just sprayed my keyboard with coffee!!!!
I'm lovin the doc marten theory!!!!!!!



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Sweetpea wrote::howl: It's 1.45 am, I cant sleep and I've just sprayed my keyboard with coffee!!!!
I'm lovin the doc marten theory!!!!!!!


You might well love the theory, I just have a feeling I may have to endure the practice later today :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:




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Good luck Martyn, I'm sure a very daft man once said "pain is good for the soul" :wave:



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