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Unable to get any sleep last night and not feeling remotely tired now I had to escape from Radio 4 as Woman's Hour was about to start. :eek4:

Found a BBC 4 Proms iPlayer concert which featured some terrible new music from New Zealand followed by Beethoven's 6th (Pastoral) which I've liked for 50 years now. But sound was too screechy. I ain't listening on crappy TV speakers but decent hifi gear. Had to turn it off. Found the same piece on radio iPlayer which is a bit better. Radio three iPlayer has better quality sound quality than BBC 4 but they must mix it differently as well. Maybe the Aurora orchestra (who they?) just have screechy instruments.

Tempo is wrong in third movement - all over the fucking place.

Feel a need to search out my Klemperer version and play that.

Bloody ignorant Prom-goers applauding between movements as well. They should throw people out of the hall if they do that. ;)

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Not watched the Proms for years, those "last night" twats piss me off and practically anything after Rachmaninov can fuck right off :)

Conductors "interpret" so I guess the guy that fvcked up the Pastoral had his own "artistic" ideas of what Ludwig would have wanted. Beethoven's tempi are all over the place cos he couldn't hear the feckin metronome. Nevertheless, there are reasonable tempi from his contemporaries which should give a conductor today the basic idea. Were they playing authentic instruments? That could make the strings screechy..............

There used to be a recording of the week show on Radio 3 which would play around 4 or 5 interpretations of, for example, the Pastoral and choose their favourite. They sometimes got it horribly wrong but at least there were other options. I used to go to the library and get as many versions of a work as possible and do my own comparisons. For example, Beethoven 3, 5, and 7 conducted by Klemperer. I've never heard better interpretations. Bonus on the vinyl was around 4 overtures in a wonderful boxed set :splif: I think I opted for Van Karajan for the Pastoral, but it was so long ago now, I can't recall.

I preferred the St John Passion (Bach) over the St Matthew Passion which might be controversial as most critics ALWAYS opt for the St Matthew. If Bach ever wrote a choral piece better than "Herr Unser Herrscher" then I'd be very surprised.

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Not been too impressed this year I must say, though I may have been careless and missed the good stuff. Will have to have a look on the Proms iPlayer site and check a few things out when I'm in the mood.

Spotted some Bach partitas and sonatas on earlier and recorded the BBC4 version performed by Russian violinist Alina Ibragimova. Well she may be be playing mostly the right notes but seems to be without any passion to me.

Think I much preferred the versions on my ancient Archiv box-set of LPs, which I daren't play on the only record deck I have now for fear of ruining them ( though when I kick the bucket they'll just end up in a skip anyways :D )

Can't find the same version on CD anywhere, only the same vinyl set at 125 Euros - and without my 'bonus' extra disc. Dammit. :)

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I seem to have ordered a Rega RP1 with Performance Pack, dammit. I must be drunk (hic). :rolleyes: :confused: :eek4:

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phild05 wrote:I preferred the St John Passion (Bach) over the St Matthew Passion which might be controversial as most critics ALWAYS opt for the St Matthew. If Bach ever wrote a choral piece better than "Herr Unser Herrscher" then I'd be very surprised.


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